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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Dec 27, 2007 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: That Same Thing

if you haven't recently (or ever) listened to Pig doing his thing on the rarely played Willie Dixon song 'The Same Thing', then i urge you to put down your Nintendo Playstation and give it a listen; as near as i can research, there are 5 Pig-performed versions in circulation (according to Deadlists), however, i confess that it is Jerry's guitar that prompts me to give this song a good listen from time to time; of the following 4 versions that i have links for, my favourite has to be the 3/18/67 version, though the 11/29/66 version is a very close second; the 12/31/71 version is average at best, and nothing worth screaming about; if anyone can locate a link for the so-called xx-xx-66 version of 'The Same Thing' i'd love to hear it; the final question of course is why the hell didn't the GD/Pig perform this song more often in concert; the song has a lovely feel to it, a slow-ish, lazy intro leading up to some very fine guitar work by Jerry

xx-xx-66: unknown venue
(can't find any link)

11-19-66: Fillmore Auditorium
http://www.archive.org/details/gd66-11-19.sbd.seff.41.sbeok.shnf

11-29-66: The Matrix
http://www.archive.org/details/gd66-11-29.sbd.ret.20448.sbeok.shnf

03-18-67: Winterland Arena
http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-03-18.sbd.fink.10282.sbeok.shnf

12-31-71: Winterland Arena
http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-31.fm.lanum.135.sbeok.shnf

obviously, the Bobby versions (to my ears anyway) can in no way compare to the Pig versions, however, if anyone who is familiar with the Bobby versions (1st performed on 10/28/91) can recommend one where Jerry is on top of his game, please let me know ...

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Dec 27, 2007 6:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

thanks Arb. liked Jerry's playing on the 3/18 version as well. also a nice Death Don't there at the end, with some pretty good work from Pig (though it does cut out early).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 27, 2007 7:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

Came to really love this tune when CPW brought up the 3-18-67 Winterland show you list; had not been familiar with it to any significant degree prior to that. Now it makes sense give your research on the number of performances.

Cool; thanks.

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Poster: ERBIE Date: Dec 27, 2007 6:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

thanks arb! on of my favoret blues tunes of all time. and no ,bobby could never touch pigpen on this one oa in that matter any of the blues numbers they did.. thanks alot and be kind

This post was modified by ERBIE on 2007-12-28 02:26:09

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Poster: ERBIE Date: Dec 27, 2007 6:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

sorry for the double aiint quite figured this hole computor thing out yet

Attachment: pigpen.bmp

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Dec 27, 2007 6:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

http://www.archive.org/details/gd91-12-28.sbd.miller.21615.sbeok.shnf

I believe that the Bobby breakout is actually this show 12-28-1991...it comes right before drums and once it get s a firm grip it's not too shabby...pretty good actually...however check out the foolish heart, drums and standing on the moon...some of the better versions out there...

they do one in 1993 that's pretty good...shoreline comes to mind...

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Dec 28, 2007 4:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

strat ... thanks for the tip; just gave it a listen and not bad at all, different, but still very listenable; by the way, i recall you wanted to download the Jerry joining Sting for Standing on the Moon at the 6/26/93 show ... i posted a direct download link just a couple of days ago if still interested

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=172964

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 28, 2007 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

What makes a man go crazy when a woman wears her dress so tight?

It's that same thing that makez a tom cat fight all night!


Are you aware that the version from 3/18/67 is in the So Many Roads box?

And the version from 12/31/71 is at the Tapers sextion?

http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/january-8-january-14-2007

This post was modified by Cliff Hucker on 2007-12-29 02:36:10

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Poster: TA4ZMA Date: Dec 28, 2007 9:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

Is this Archive.org or Grateful Dead R Us?

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 29, 2007 7:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

"Never ascribe to malice that which can more easily be explained by incompetence."

Thanks for your always positive contribution here, pity you are forced to change user names so frequently!

By the way, I'm quite impressed with your photography, and sorry as well for your emotional and mental issues...

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Dec 28, 2007 9:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

stick around ... you might actually discover the answer to your query

This post was modified by Arbuthnot on 2007-12-29 05:59:44

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Poster: jerkwaterdan Date: Jan 1, 2008 1:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

I'm a little late on this post but could this be the one you were thinking about? It originally appeared on the Sunflower Records release called Historic Dead and purports to be from the Avalon on 9/16/66. Good version too!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd66-09-16.sbd.vernon.9127.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 28, 2007 9:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

Ignoring, as per usual, the main thrust of the thread, I nevertheless must thank you for the 12/31/71 reference and will add it to my list of must haves. There are some great musical hints signalling the coming of Europe 72, but this show really shines some hard light on the guitar band of 70-71. Smile smile smile.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Dec 27, 2007 7:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Same Thing

i have a similar sounding jam but with no vocals as part of the PICO ACID TEST gig, 3/12/66